Craig catches up with two luminaries in the Agile and Lean space, Mary and Tom Poppendieck at YOW! Conference to talk about agile, lean, rapid feedback, culture and leadership. The discussion points include:

• Making the link between lean and software development and discovering that waterfall makes no sense
• The origins of the first book: Lean Software Development: An Agile Toolkit
• Agile is not lean in software development, Agile is lean in a delivery organisation
• How long does it take you to put a single line of code into Production?
• The manifestation of lean really kicked off in 2010 with both the rise of DevOps and the Lean Startup
• Delivery organisations versus engineering organisations and the journey of Agile
• Agile has not well addressed delivering the right stuff, solving the right problem and the architecture of rapid deployment
• Only two goals at ING: Deliver every two weeks and don’t crash production, resulted in rapid feedback loops
• “The Penguin and the Leviathan: How Cooperation Triumphs over Self-Interest” by Yochai Benkler
• Latest book: The Lean Mindset: Ask the Right Questions 
• Create centres of good culture and let people find it, to survive in a competitive environment you need to do something different
• Goal is to create an environment where people enjoy the challenge of developing software
• The critical resource to be managed is not capital but the passion and energy of bright and creative people
• People don’t resist change, they resist being changed
• Build a change platform, not a change program
• YOW! 2014 talk – The Scaling Dilemma
• The military model – leaders have strategic awareness two levels down and situational awareness one level up and the concept of working leaders

TheAgileRevolution-101 (43 minutes)