At Agile 2013 in Nashville, TN, Craig talks to Al Shalloway from Net Objectives in the open space area (ironically in front of a waterfall) about his current areas of interest in the Lean Agile community. Al has been a leading voice in the Agile community for many years, is the author of many software development and Agile related books and is a SAFe Program Consultant as well as a co-founder of the Lean Software & Systems Consortium. The topics discussed include:

• Scaled Agile Framework (SAFe) and the manifestation of Lean
• Third Generation of Lean Agile or more simply The Lean-Agile Project
• Kanban clarity
• “When your up to your ass in alligators, it’s hard to remember you’re there to drain the swamp” – IBM
• Aspire by Kevin Hall
• Steve Chandler – “When things serve us they’re good, and when they don’t they’re not”
• Singles

TheAgileRevolution-63 (26 minutes)